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		By: Jonathan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the point is Mark - are the World Economic Forum merely reacting to the conditions brough about by a natural virus, or was the plan and the &#039;infrastructure&#039; in place to react to the pandemic once it arose. I think by banding anything that is not plastered over the pages of the main stream, who are clearly operating with an agenda (e.g. censurship by FB, Twitter etc. and clearly biassed reporting by mainstream media) as conspriacy theory, then you rather hamstringing yourself with your own leash. I don&#039;t belive for one minute that patient zero would not have been identified (if they were infected in the seafood market) or the source bat colony would not have been identified by now, if it existed. By the deafening silence about the precise source of SARS-nCov2, it is most likely this virus came from a lab and neither China nor the NIH that funded the gain of function research in Wuhan are willing to explain what they know about this. This silence is evidence in my mind. 

Furthermore, the machinary for the impending rollout of vaccines and covipasses etc. was all in place before the pandemic narrative was rolled out. Event 201 had been processed and the seed for a cornavirus pandemic had been planted firmly in the mindset. I agree that there are many points of basic fact that can be used to destroy the lockdown culture that has swept the world (well most of it) - but it doesn&#039;t stop counteless governments from persistently ignoring these scientifically supported lines of evidence - egro - there is another plan afoot and covid19 is clearly being used as the great distractor while a new global financial plan is being. It is no secret - a new Breton Woods is being openly talked aout by the IMF etc. 

If one could reisiste what is rolling down the road by scientific discussion and an evidence based approach - that would be great - but if you could we would not be in this position where a normal seasonal virus is being used to usher in social, political and financial reforms on a global scale. This has to be organized - it would not be possible otherwise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the point is Mark &#8211; are the World Economic Forum merely reacting to the conditions brough about by a natural virus, or was the plan and the &#8216;infrastructure&#8217; in place to react to the pandemic once it arose. I think by banding anything that is not plastered over the pages of the main stream, who are clearly operating with an agenda (e.g. censurship by FB, Twitter etc. and clearly biassed reporting by mainstream media) as conspriacy theory, then you rather hamstringing yourself with your own leash. I don&#8217;t belive for one minute that patient zero would not have been identified (if they were infected in the seafood market) or the source bat colony would not have been identified by now, if it existed. By the deafening silence about the precise source of SARS-nCov2, it is most likely this virus came from a lab and neither China nor the NIH that funded the gain of function research in Wuhan are willing to explain what they know about this. This silence is evidence in my mind. </p>
<p>Furthermore, the machinary for the impending rollout of vaccines and covipasses etc. was all in place before the pandemic narrative was rolled out. Event 201 had been processed and the seed for a cornavirus pandemic had been planted firmly in the mindset. I agree that there are many points of basic fact that can be used to destroy the lockdown culture that has swept the world (well most of it) &#8211; but it doesn&#8217;t stop counteless governments from persistently ignoring these scientifically supported lines of evidence &#8211; egro &#8211; there is another plan afoot and covid19 is clearly being used as the great distractor while a new global financial plan is being. It is no secret &#8211; a new Breton Woods is being openly talked aout by the IMF etc. </p>
<p>If one could reisiste what is rolling down the road by scientific discussion and an evidence based approach &#8211; that would be great &#8211; but if you could we would not be in this position where a normal seasonal virus is being used to usher in social, political and financial reforms on a global scale. This has to be organized &#8211; it would not be possible otherwise.</p>
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		By: Marc de Piolenc		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2020 08:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One item dismissed in the &quot;conspiracy&quot; portion of your post is in fact real: the pseudo-vaccine that in fact sterilizes the recipient.
In the early 1990s a vaccine of this type was tested in the Philippines and in two other Third World countries. It was claimed to be a tetanus vaccine, but five shots were required at monthly intervals, and it was only to be given to women of childbearing age. My wife was a public school teacher at the time, and she was required to take all five shots; in order to collect her pay for each month, she had to prove that she had been &quot;vaccinated.&quot;
It worked - partially. Many women became sterile for a time - approximately five years. Some did not. There are rumors of birth defects in the children of some women who did not become sterile, but I have not been able to verify them.
My wife, who received the vaccine in 1995 was able to bear children, beginning in 2000, though she had only two live births in seven pregnancies (her first child, a son, was born before she received the vaccine). It is difficult to attribute part or all of this to the vaccine, as my wife and I are serum incompatible. Happily, our children who made it to term were healthy.
As an explanation of the scattered results, I believe that the manufacturer of the vaccine was seeking a true clinical test, with some recipients getting the real thing and others a placebo. But that would have required divulging the actual purpose of the vaccine to those receiving it, and to those administering it. The Philippines is 80% Catholic, and this would have led to an immediate failure of the test. A decision was clearly made at a very high level - I believe it was the Secretary of Health - to conceal the purpose of the test, and this led to real vaccines and placebos being mixed up, with each recipient receiving whatever was available.
One Catholic nun based in Manila is still monitoring as many recipients of the vaccine as she can; we&#039;ve been in touch by email.
When the Church queried the government about this &quot;vaccine&quot; the answer was in effect &quot;it never happened, and it will never happen again.&quot;
If anybody is interested, I can dig up my hardcopy files and scan them. In the meantime, the existence of this type of vaccine can be verified by looking up &quot;anti-hgc vaccine&quot; on any search engine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One item dismissed in the &#8220;conspiracy&#8221; portion of your post is in fact real: the pseudo-vaccine that in fact sterilizes the recipient.<br />
In the early 1990s a vaccine of this type was tested in the Philippines and in two other Third World countries. It was claimed to be a tetanus vaccine, but five shots were required at monthly intervals, and it was only to be given to women of childbearing age. My wife was a public school teacher at the time, and she was required to take all five shots; in order to collect her pay for each month, she had to prove that she had been &#8220;vaccinated.&#8221;<br />
It worked &#8211; partially. Many women became sterile for a time &#8211; approximately five years. Some did not. There are rumors of birth defects in the children of some women who did not become sterile, but I have not been able to verify them.<br />
My wife, who received the vaccine in 1995 was able to bear children, beginning in 2000, though she had only two live births in seven pregnancies (her first child, a son, was born before she received the vaccine). It is difficult to attribute part or all of this to the vaccine, as my wife and I are serum incompatible. Happily, our children who made it to term were healthy.<br />
As an explanation of the scattered results, I believe that the manufacturer of the vaccine was seeking a true clinical test, with some recipients getting the real thing and others a placebo. But that would have required divulging the actual purpose of the vaccine to those receiving it, and to those administering it. The Philippines is 80% Catholic, and this would have led to an immediate failure of the test. A decision was clearly made at a very high level &#8211; I believe it was the Secretary of Health &#8211; to conceal the purpose of the test, and this led to real vaccines and placebos being mixed up, with each recipient receiving whatever was available.<br />
One Catholic nun based in Manila is still monitoring as many recipients of the vaccine as she can; we&#8217;ve been in touch by email.<br />
When the Church queried the government about this &#8220;vaccine&#8221; the answer was in effect &#8220;it never happened, and it will never happen again.&#8221;<br />
If anybody is interested, I can dig up my hardcopy files and scan them. In the meantime, the existence of this type of vaccine can be verified by looking up &#8220;anti-hgc vaccine&#8221; on any search engine.</p>
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		By: smayer97		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2020 05:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the video video links... Ivor Cummins has GREAT scientific info... stuff I have been collecting for months... GREAT CONTEXT... something that is SO LACKING in the MSM. 

If only there was a way to get politicians to listen to the REAL science.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the video video links&#8230; Ivor Cummins has GREAT scientific info&#8230; stuff I have been collecting for months&#8230; GREAT CONTEXT&#8230; something that is SO LACKING in the MSM. </p>
<p>If only there was a way to get politicians to listen to the REAL science.</p>
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		By: David Barnett, Ph.D.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Barnett, Ph.D.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2020 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The data show clearly that unfocussed lockdowns were a colossal and pointless error.  There were voices, such as Michael Levitt&#039;s, pointing this out before any western societies indulged in lockdowns, but the March panic was understandable.  And had the various governments reversed themselves by May, I think they would have been forgiven.

None of the lockdown governments have reversed themselves.  Instead they have doubled down .  It seems as if justifying the previous error is more important than embarking on rational policy.  I cannot help seeing a parallel between this present compounding of a manifest error and the French Military&#039;s persistence in the Dreyfus affair of 1894.  They persisted in their persecution of Dreyfus for 12 years, even forging &quot;evidence&quot; to justify it.  The affair divided French society.

The big worry is that the backlash against the shortsighted rear-covering establishment will bring chaos of the kind which all sorts of nasty elements can exploit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The data show clearly that unfocussed lockdowns were a colossal and pointless error.  There were voices, such as Michael Levitt&#8217;s, pointing this out before any western societies indulged in lockdowns, but the March panic was understandable.  And had the various governments reversed themselves by May, I think they would have been forgiven.</p>
<p>None of the lockdown governments have reversed themselves.  Instead they have doubled down .  It seems as if justifying the previous error is more important than embarking on rational policy.  I cannot help seeing a parallel between this present compounding of a manifest error and the French Military&#8217;s persistence in the Dreyfus affair of 1894.  They persisted in their persecution of Dreyfus for 12 years, even forging &#8220;evidence&#8221; to justify it.  The affair divided French society.</p>
<p>The big worry is that the backlash against the shortsighted rear-covering establishment will bring chaos of the kind which all sorts of nasty elements can exploit.</p>
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