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		By: Douglas Collins		</title>
		<link>https://bombthrower.com/no-meat-for-you/#comment-140410</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2023 15:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While I will stipulate that I don&#039;t know the worldwide biomass or methane production capacity, I have to wonder how much methane is produced by termites and millipedes(and possibly other cellulose digesting organisms) relative to cattle.
Perhaps before eliminating cattle farming, we should exterminate all deer and rabbits, defoliate all the rain forests and bring back chlordane as a termiticide.  That might have much greater effect in reducing methane in the atmosphere.
Most(all?) cellulose digestion is accomplished by gut bacteria that have the capability to chemically break down that very tough carbohydrate.  The bacteria are then themselves digested by the cow, termite, millipede etc,
Getting rid of cattle is either very stupid or else very malevolent.  Or both.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I will stipulate that I don&#039;t know the worldwide biomass or methane production capacity, I have to wonder how much methane is produced by termites and millipedes(and possibly other cellulose digesting organisms) relative to cattle.<br />
Perhaps before eliminating cattle farming, we should exterminate all deer and rabbits, defoliate all the rain forests and bring back chlordane as a termiticide.  That might have much greater effect in reducing methane in the atmosphere.<br />
Most(all?) cellulose digestion is accomplished by gut bacteria that have the capability to chemically break down that very tough carbohydrate.  The bacteria are then themselves digested by the cow, termite, millipede etc,<br />
Getting rid of cattle is either very stupid or else very malevolent.  Or both.</p>
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		By: grrlrocks		</title>
		<link>https://bombthrower.com/no-meat-for-you/#comment-136394</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2023 04:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bombthrower.com/no-meat-for-you/#comment-72235&quot;&gt;Bill McCormack&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for all of that info! As a Geoscientist, I can quote a lot of reasons the &#034;carbon crisis&#034; is really that we&#039;re **too low** in atmospheric CO2, but did not know the animal side of things.

The **real** reason they want to do away with cattle, and other meat (whole protein) sources is control. They&#039;re making us sick and ill via all sorts of chemicals into us in all sorts of ways. By eliminating much of the whole protein in our diets, we&#039;ll be made physically weak, and lacking in brain power, as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bombthrower.com/no-meat-for-you/#comment-72235">Bill McCormack</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for all of that info! As a Geoscientist, I can quote a lot of reasons the &quot;carbon crisis&quot; is really that we&#039;re **too low** in atmospheric CO2, but did not know the animal side of things.</p>
<p>The **real** reason they want to do away with cattle, and other meat (whole protein) sources is control. They&#039;re making us sick and ill via all sorts of chemicals into us in all sorts of ways. By eliminating much of the whole protein in our diets, we&#039;ll be made physically weak, and lacking in brain power, as well.</p>
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		By: Mark E. Jeftovic		</title>
		<link>https://bombthrower.com/no-meat-for-you/#comment-72322</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 18:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bombthrower.com/no-meat-for-you/#comment-72311&quot;&gt;Leisure Larry&lt;/a&gt;.

Somebody tell Jeff Rense to keep his knuckle-dragging skinheads away from here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bombthrower.com/no-meat-for-you/#comment-72311">Leisure Larry</a>.</p>
<p>Somebody tell Jeff Rense to keep his knuckle-dragging skinheads away from here.</p>
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		By: Leisure Larry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 14:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The communist assault is and has always been a Jewish race war of extermination against Whites.
Bell the cat   ---   while you can.]]></description>
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Bell the cat   &#8212;   while you can.</p>
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		By: Bill McCormack		</title>
		<link>https://bombthrower.com/no-meat-for-you/#comment-72235</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2021 19:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A few FUNDAMENTAL facts

1.  The WHOLE BIOSPHERE is responsible for just 10% of total Methane emissions. Animals with Rumens are likely to contribute maybe 5% of that 10% i.e. just 0.5% (? I don&#039;t have a number to hand and most of the so-called Science on the subject seems to be BS)  Remember we are supposed to be counting Basal Rangeland Methane, swamps, rivers, people, etcetc
2.  If the animal does not eat the grass,  the grass ROTS and emits Methane in doing so. This BASAL Methane production is TOTALLY left out of all the discussions and models in regard to Methane from Ruminants.
3.  Cows cannot synthesise Carbon Atoms in the Rumen. A cow cannot exhume what it does not EAT.
4.  CO2 from the atmosphere is absorbed by the grass in photosynthesis. It is turned into Sugars, Proteins and Cellulose in the grass which is then eaten by the animal.
5.  The Carbon then leaves the animal as breath (CO2), as farts (CH4) and in the manure as a variety of substances. The manure part is largely returned to the earth by worms, microbes, beetles  etc.  What happens in the soil is another cycle worth a treatise on its own.

6.  In total and summary, the cow cannot emit a single Carbon Atom it has not eaten. In fact, to an extent, the animal is a temporary Carbon Sink as it puts on Bodyweight!
7.  Again, in summary, Methane from Ruminant animals DOES NOT accumulate in the atmosphere. It is, essentially, recycled back to grasses through the photosynthetic process.
8.  CH4 has a lifetime in the atmosphere of just 3.2 years (latest data and in agreement with 1992 evidence before numbers started to get fudged to suit the political agenda.) during which time it is (fundamentally) turned into CO2 and H2O. The life of any particular Methane molecule will be decreased as concentration increases. So quoting simplistic numbers around Methane is just BS. ()Note:  Estimated atmospheric Methane life was estimated at 3.2 years in 1992.  It suddenly became 12 years without much actual data; then it became seven years; then it became five years!!!   If all this climate science is SO EXACT why all this dodging, weaving, exaggeration and downright lies???????)
9.  CH4 is a combination of 2 +ve ions forced together. There is a lot of energy. I encourage all Greens and LYING JOURNALISTS to conduct an experiment. Take two cylinders into a room. One is CO2 and one of CH4. Turn on the tap of a cylinder of CO2, wait three minutes and then light a match. NOW, air the room, open the tap on the CH4, wait three minutes and light a match. Please DO it!!!!!! Note that a good electrical storm is likely to clean the sky of most of the Methane in the surrounds.
10.  Methane in the atmosphere seems to be destroyed by many processes. There are places where Methane plumes occur but Methane has returned to basal levels within 200M of the source. The reason for this phenomenon is unknown.
11.  There is ZERO evidence that CH4 is 80 x CO2 as an effective Greenhouse Gas. The Scientific number is accepted as 26. The 80 number published conflates a variety of factors not just the ACTUAL measure.
12.  Methane levels in the atmosphere have increased. If that is a problem then those concerned need to look at the REAL sources which include Coal Mines and Gas wells etc. Also, best to try shutting down the whole natural earth activity like volcanos swamps etc! Various attempts at identifying the major casues of the increase have been conflicting which means nobody really has an actual clue. So building Methane models into World Climate Change Models is just one more level of total BS added to a model.
12.  Current proportion Methane in the atmosphere is 1 part Methane to 1 BILLION parts of air (by volume)!!!!!!
13.  Could it possibly be that the whole reason for wanting to kill all the cattle is to great rid of independently minded people who do not bow to the New World Order?
14.  Lastly, If the Greens and COP attendants want to get rid of cattle I suggest they PERSONALLY start shooting all the 400 million Hindu cows (about 40% of the world herd) in India. I&#039;ll want some popcorn to watch the result of that. By contrast the COP morons are after Australia with 30 million head and USA with 94 million. China has 96 million and Brazil 230 million. But let&#039;s not worry about India, China and Brazil!!!

 It&#039;s obvious this is just one large mountain of lies with little more to it than a political agenda.

I am an old (Australian) Agricultural Scientist specialising in Animal Production with Economics added. I also have a very clear understanding of models in regard to how they are constructed, the results they provide and their use (or lack of usefulness) as predictive mechanisms in complex biological systems)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few FUNDAMENTAL facts</p>
<p>1.  The WHOLE BIOSPHERE is responsible for just 10% of total Methane emissions. Animals with Rumens are likely to contribute maybe 5% of that 10% i.e. just 0.5% (? I don&#039;t have a number to hand and most of the so-called Science on the subject seems to be BS)  Remember we are supposed to be counting Basal Rangeland Methane, swamps, rivers, people, etcetc<br />
2.  If the animal does not eat the grass,  the grass ROTS and emits Methane in doing so. This BASAL Methane production is TOTALLY left out of all the discussions and models in regard to Methane from Ruminants.<br />
3.  Cows cannot synthesise Carbon Atoms in the Rumen. A cow cannot exhume what it does not EAT.<br />
4.  CO2 from the atmosphere is absorbed by the grass in photosynthesis. It is turned into Sugars, Proteins and Cellulose in the grass which is then eaten by the animal.<br />
5.  The Carbon then leaves the animal as breath (CO2), as farts (CH4) and in the manure as a variety of substances. The manure part is largely returned to the earth by worms, microbes, beetles  etc.  What happens in the soil is another cycle worth a treatise on its own.</p>
<p>6.  In total and summary, the cow cannot emit a single Carbon Atom it has not eaten. In fact, to an extent, the animal is a temporary Carbon Sink as it puts on Bodyweight!<br />
7.  Again, in summary, Methane from Ruminant animals DOES NOT accumulate in the atmosphere. It is, essentially, recycled back to grasses through the photosynthetic process.<br />
8.  CH4 has a lifetime in the atmosphere of just 3.2 years (latest data and in agreement with 1992 evidence before numbers started to get fudged to suit the political agenda.) during which time it is (fundamentally) turned into CO2 and H2O. The life of any particular Methane molecule will be decreased as concentration increases. So quoting simplistic numbers around Methane is just BS. ()Note:  Estimated atmospheric Methane life was estimated at 3.2 years in 1992.  It suddenly became 12 years without much actual data; then it became seven years; then it became five years!!!   If all this climate science is SO EXACT why all this dodging, weaving, exaggeration and downright lies???????)<br />
9.  CH4 is a combination of 2 +ve ions forced together. There is a lot of energy. I encourage all Greens and LYING JOURNALISTS to conduct an experiment. Take two cylinders into a room. One is CO2 and one of CH4. Turn on the tap of a cylinder of CO2, wait three minutes and then light a match. NOW, air the room, open the tap on the CH4, wait three minutes and light a match. Please DO it!!!!!! Note that a good electrical storm is likely to clean the sky of most of the Methane in the surrounds.<br />
10.  Methane in the atmosphere seems to be destroyed by many processes. There are places where Methane plumes occur but Methane has returned to basal levels within 200M of the source. The reason for this phenomenon is unknown.<br />
11.  There is ZERO evidence that CH4 is 80 x CO2 as an effective Greenhouse Gas. The Scientific number is accepted as 26. The 80 number published conflates a variety of factors not just the ACTUAL measure.<br />
12.  Methane levels in the atmosphere have increased. If that is a problem then those concerned need to look at the REAL sources which include Coal Mines and Gas wells etc. Also, best to try shutting down the whole natural earth activity like volcanos swamps etc! Various attempts at identifying the major casues of the increase have been conflicting which means nobody really has an actual clue. So building Methane models into World Climate Change Models is just one more level of total BS added to a model.<br />
12.  Current proportion Methane in the atmosphere is 1 part Methane to 1 BILLION parts of air (by volume)!!!!!!<br />
13.  Could it possibly be that the whole reason for wanting to kill all the cattle is to great rid of independently minded people who do not bow to the New World Order?<br />
14.  Lastly, If the Greens and COP attendants want to get rid of cattle I suggest they PERSONALLY start shooting all the 400 million Hindu cows (about 40% of the world herd) in India. I&#039;ll want some popcorn to watch the result of that. By contrast the COP morons are after Australia with 30 million head and USA with 94 million. China has 96 million and Brazil 230 million. But let&#039;s not worry about India, China and Brazil!!!</p>
<p> It&#039;s obvious this is just one large mountain of lies with little more to it than a political agenda.</p>
<p>I am an old (Australian) Agricultural Scientist specialising in Animal Production with Economics added. I also have a very clear understanding of models in regard to how they are constructed, the results they provide and their use (or lack of usefulness) as predictive mechanisms in complex biological systems)</p>
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		By: David		</title>
		<link>https://bombthrower.com/no-meat-for-you/#comment-72160</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Nov 2021 01:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At 200 calories for a quarter pounder, haggis burgers don&#039;t look unhealthy.  Soy, on the other hand, contains high levels of phytoestrogen.  So much so that soy has been applied for compensation of hormone deficiency in menopause.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At 200 calories for a quarter pounder, haggis burgers don&#039;t look unhealthy.  Soy, on the other hand, contains high levels of phytoestrogen.  So much so that soy has been applied for compensation of hormone deficiency in menopause.</p>
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		By: Kevin Pilon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2021 18:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Get your meat from Grassland Beef, AKA US Wellness, a farm cooperative: All farm raised the way they were 80 years ago, grass fed for ruminants: Bison, organ meats, pork, poultry, duck, season venison,  beef and fish (but I can get that locally). No antibiotics, nothing artificial. I have been buying all my meat from them for twenty years. I receive no financial benefit I am just passing on my experience with them.

I am already on the list and subscriber to Crypto Capitalist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get your meat from Grassland Beef, AKA US Wellness, a farm cooperative: All farm raised the way they were 80 years ago, grass fed for ruminants: Bison, organ meats, pork, poultry, duck, season venison,  beef and fish (but I can get that locally). No antibiotics, nothing artificial. I have been buying all my meat from them for twenty years. I receive no financial benefit I am just passing on my experience with them.</p>
<p>I am already on the list and subscriber to Crypto Capitalist.</p>
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