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					<description><![CDATA[]they key assumptions-[ ?

the key ?]]></description>
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<p>the key ?</p>
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		By: Mark E. Jeftovic		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark E. Jeftovic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2023 16:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bombthrower.com/the-club-of-rome-at-50-years-old/#comment-129666&quot;&gt;Darren Smith&lt;/a&gt;.

Checking with the author, I&#039;m sure he&#039;ll be thrilled.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bombthrower.com/the-club-of-rome-at-50-years-old/#comment-129666">Darren Smith</a>.</p>
<p>Checking with the author, I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;ll be thrilled.</p>
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		By: Darren Smith		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2023 08:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi,

The article on the club of Rome at 50 is excellent - may we reproduce a part of it in our ~UK print newspaper The Light please? https://thelightpaper.co.uk/

If so, what by line and web link would your prefer?

Have you heard of Druthers in Canada? Independent print truth paper as well - they&#039;d likely love your stuff, and print around 200k-300k copies every month.

Happy New Year,

Peace,

Darren &#038; Team.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>The article on the club of Rome at 50 is excellent &#8211; may we reproduce a part of it in our ~UK print newspaper The Light please? <a href="https://thelightpaper.co.uk/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://thelightpaper.co.uk/</a></p>
<p>If so, what by line and web link would your prefer?</p>
<p>Have you heard of Druthers in Canada? Independent print truth paper as well &#8211; they&#039;d likely love your stuff, and print around 200k-300k copies every month.</p>
<p>Happy New Year,</p>
<p>Peace,</p>
<p>Darren &amp; Team.</p>
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		By: Larry Druhall		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry Druhall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 18:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Those who perpetrate these kinds of affronts against life appear to explore all possibilities and carefully plan their strategies. And it appears that nobody on this internet does anything remotely similar? The rigged political and legal systems have failed spectacularly to do what should have been done on or before February 2020. Edward Snowden discussed this fear of open discussions. Are people simply afraid to engage in this kind of thing? Rene Descartes, in the 1600s, might have succeeded in getting concepts published that usually resulted in the authors being burned at the stake. It can be done now, but how? My goal is to try to find people on this internet who will actually dialogue about root cause analysis of these issues and an entire range of solutions.

Below is one of a large range of discussion possibilities.

CLASS WAR?

In the words of Warren Buffet himself...

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/123058-there-s-class-warfare-all-right-but-it-s-my-class-the

“Thereʼs class warfare, all right, but itʼs my class, the rich class, thatʼs making war, and weʼre winning.”

― Warren Buffett &#034;

When do we stop only documenting these crimes and relying on failure prone rigged things like the legal and political system to really solve things? When do we actually start discussing what is going on and how to solve it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who perpetrate these kinds of affronts against life appear to explore all possibilities and carefully plan their strategies. And it appears that nobody on this internet does anything remotely similar? The rigged political and legal systems have failed spectacularly to do what should have been done on or before February 2020. Edward Snowden discussed this fear of open discussions. Are people simply afraid to engage in this kind of thing? Rene Descartes, in the 1600s, might have succeeded in getting concepts published that usually resulted in the authors being burned at the stake. It can be done now, but how? My goal is to try to find people on this internet who will actually dialogue about root cause analysis of these issues and an entire range of solutions.</p>
<p>Below is one of a large range of discussion possibilities.</p>
<p>CLASS WAR?</p>
<p>In the words of Warren Buffet himself&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/123058-there-s-class-warfare-all-right-but-it-s-my-class-the" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/123058-there-s-class-warfare-all-right-but-it-s-my-class-the</a></p>
<p>“Thereʼs class warfare, all right, but itʼs my class, the rich class, thatʼs making war, and weʼre winning.”</p>
<p>― Warren Buffett &quot;</p>
<p>When do we stop only documenting these crimes and relying on failure prone rigged things like the legal and political system to really solve things? When do we actually start discussing what is going on and how to solve it?</p>
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		By: Steven Kayser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven Kayser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 18:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What if the Club of Rome was exactly right and the current management has led us off a cliff?

Bankers are Count Dooku, AI is Anakin
Has the &#034;Kill him, kill him now&#034; order been given?

If the Emperor held an AI technological cage match between Agustin Carstens, “With CBDCs, The Central Bank Will Have Absolute Control“ and his team vs Elon Musk, details his vision for a twitter payments system, and his team, who would you bet on?

https://stevenlawrencekayser.substack.com/p/bankers-are-count-dooku-ai-is-anakin]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if the Club of Rome was exactly right and the current management has led us off a cliff?</p>
<p>Bankers are Count Dooku, AI is Anakin<br />
Has the &quot;Kill him, kill him now&quot; order been given?</p>
<p>If the Emperor held an AI technological cage match between Agustin Carstens, “With CBDCs, The Central Bank Will Have Absolute Control“ and his team vs Elon Musk, details his vision for a twitter payments system, and his team, who would you bet on?</p>
<p><a href="https://stevenlawrencekayser.substack.com/p/bankers-are-count-dooku-ai-is-anakin" rel="nofollow ugc">https://stevenlawrencekayser.substack.com/p/bankers-are-count-dooku-ai-is-anakin</a></p>
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		By: Doly Garcia		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2022 19:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#034;Humans have more to fear from the managers of population reduction...&#034;

Wait a moment right there.

Just after making a fair explanation of the contents of the &#034;Limits to growth&#034; book, you go ahead and say it&#039;s about managing population reduction. It isn&#039;t. It really is about attempting to prevent a catastrophic population reduction, and having instead something like a population levelling. Among other things. Population levelling is just one of the long-term goals, the main one is sustainable use of resources.

And in any case, people have been managing population levels for longer than a century, since they started accepting that having smaller families was a good trade-off, if it meant increasing the chances of a good future for their children.

So, why do all the conspiracy people keep going on about population reduction?

Oh, I know. The one thing that &#034;Limits to growth&#034; didn&#039;t talk about at all. Nukes. Yeah, those can cause some population reduction, if enough of them are thrown around.

Why are you blaming nukes on a book that didn&#039;t even talk about them?

Oh, I know. Greenpeace. They hate nukes, don&#039;t they? And they used to love &#034;Limits to growth&#034;, at least on their early days.

Why are you having a go at Greenpeace for wanting nice things?

Oh, I know. They&#039;re way too nice. Eco-terrorism has never been a thing, not even mild green violence has ever been a thing. So they&#039;re clearly losers. They give, give, give and never take anything for themselves. You can blame them of anything and they turn the other cheek. They&#039;re saints. In other words, they make good martyrs. Killing them would never do, but discrediting them is dead easy because they&#039;re too nice.

I could go on. But I&#039;m not particularly going to bother. You are clearly using software to write your stuff, like so many people on the Internet these days. And you think that your software is going to get you wherever you want to go.

Your software isn&#039;t working. And not just because it&#039;s got to the point that some of the stuff is so noticeably artificial. That&#039;s the least of your problem. Your problem is just, your software isn&#039;t working. You aren&#039;t getting what you want. I can tell. And you know how I can tell?

Just look at the world. Does it look to you like a world that is working?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Humans have more to fear from the managers of population reduction&#8230;&quot;</p>
<p>Wait a moment right there.</p>
<p>Just after making a fair explanation of the contents of the &quot;Limits to growth&quot; book, you go ahead and say it&#039;s about managing population reduction. It isn&#039;t. It really is about attempting to prevent a catastrophic population reduction, and having instead something like a population levelling. Among other things. Population levelling is just one of the long-term goals, the main one is sustainable use of resources.</p>
<p>And in any case, people have been managing population levels for longer than a century, since they started accepting that having smaller families was a good trade-off, if it meant increasing the chances of a good future for their children.</p>
<p>So, why do all the conspiracy people keep going on about population reduction?</p>
<p>Oh, I know. The one thing that &quot;Limits to growth&quot; didn&#039;t talk about at all. Nukes. Yeah, those can cause some population reduction, if enough of them are thrown around.</p>
<p>Why are you blaming nukes on a book that didn&#039;t even talk about them?</p>
<p>Oh, I know. Greenpeace. They hate nukes, don&#039;t they? And they used to love &quot;Limits to growth&quot;, at least on their early days.</p>
<p>Why are you having a go at Greenpeace for wanting nice things?</p>
<p>Oh, I know. They&#039;re way too nice. Eco-terrorism has never been a thing, not even mild green violence has ever been a thing. So they&#039;re clearly losers. They give, give, give and never take anything for themselves. You can blame them of anything and they turn the other cheek. They&#039;re saints. In other words, they make good martyrs. Killing them would never do, but discrediting them is dead easy because they&#039;re too nice.</p>
<p>I could go on. But I&#039;m not particularly going to bother. You are clearly using software to write your stuff, like so many people on the Internet these days. And you think that your software is going to get you wherever you want to go.</p>
<p>Your software isn&#039;t working. And not just because it&#039;s got to the point that some of the stuff is so noticeably artificial. That&#039;s the least of your problem. Your problem is just, your software isn&#039;t working. You aren&#039;t getting what you want. I can tell. And you know how I can tell?</p>
<p>Just look at the world. Does it look to you like a world that is working?</p>
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		By: ChaimD		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2022 15:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We went into the realm of the “unsustainable” tens of thousands of years ago. We are still in “unsustainablity”. There is no stable state.


Sounds like an ingrained affirmative response to this little gem:

&#034;...And God blessed them and said to them, Be fruitful, multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it [using all its vast resources in the service of God and man]; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and over every living creature that moves upon the earth...&#034;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We went into the realm of the “unsustainable” tens of thousands of years ago. We are still in “unsustainablity”. There is no stable state.</p>
<p>Sounds like an ingrained affirmative response to this little gem:</p>
<p>&quot;&#8230;And God blessed them and said to them, Be fruitful, multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it [using all its vast resources in the service of God and man]; and have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and over every living creature that moves upon the earth&#8230;&quot;</p>
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		By: ChaimD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ChaimD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2022 15:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TPTB will always tell you what they are doing, it&#039;s their one concession for the evil that they are animating.

The problem is when things get really crazy (like they are now) their revelations are sound insane (they are) that anyone who doesn&#039;t have context for the announcement will ignore it due to a combination of intellectual laziness and normalcy bias.

The personal investment is just too high for most of us. First there is the tedious task of trying to get up to speed with the current state of economics, geopolitics, and a million practical concerns. Not to mention gathering sufficient information to understand the implications of the announcement can be a monumental task which needs to be balanced so you don&#039;t burn yourself up hating and worrying.

Then there is the even more difficult measure of deciding how to act/react. Ever hear of &#034;fear paralysis&#034;?

The things that are being proposed are too terrible to imagine. The West are being forcibly deindustrialized, this means millions will die terrible deaths as TPTB callously cut us off from our resources. That thought alone is enough for most people to simply let the news go in one ear, and out the other...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TPTB will always tell you what they are doing, it&#039;s their one concession for the evil that they are animating.</p>
<p>The problem is when things get really crazy (like they are now) their revelations are sound insane (they are) that anyone who doesn&#039;t have context for the announcement will ignore it due to a combination of intellectual laziness and normalcy bias.</p>
<p>The personal investment is just too high for most of us. First there is the tedious task of trying to get up to speed with the current state of economics, geopolitics, and a million practical concerns. Not to mention gathering sufficient information to understand the implications of the announcement can be a monumental task which needs to be balanced so you don&#039;t burn yourself up hating and worrying.</p>
<p>Then there is the even more difficult measure of deciding how to act/react. Ever hear of &quot;fear paralysis&quot;?</p>
<p>The things that are being proposed are too terrible to imagine. The West are being forcibly deindustrialized, this means millions will die terrible deaths as TPTB callously cut us off from our resources. That thought alone is enough for most people to simply let the news go in one ear, and out the other&#8230;</p>
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		By: Gary Heidt		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary Heidt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2022 14:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Did you know that Club of Rome member Liz Mohn owns over one third of US book publishing. A Club of Rome member directly controls one third of US book publishing companies. It&#039;s amazing. She is a German lady and she owns Penguin and Random House.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you know that Club of Rome member Liz Mohn owns over one third of US book publishing. A Club of Rome member directly controls one third of US book publishing companies. It&#039;s amazing. She is a German lady and she owns Penguin and Random House.</p>
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		By: steven kayser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steven kayser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2022 11:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bombthrower.com/the-club-of-rome-at-50-years-old/#comment-126527&quot;&gt;Ian Le Cheminant&lt;/a&gt;.

what you are all missing is that the club of rome was right on themoney.  peak oil happened as scheduled, and most simply missed it.  here is the absolute proof:  
https://stevenlawrencekayser.substack.com/p/russia-saudi-arabia-the-entire-world]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bombthrower.com/the-club-of-rome-at-50-years-old/#comment-126527">Ian Le Cheminant</a>.</p>
<p>what you are all missing is that the club of rome was right on themoney.  peak oil happened as scheduled, and most simply missed it.  here is the absolute proof:<br />
<a href="https://stevenlawrencekayser.substack.com/p/russia-saudi-arabia-the-entire-world" rel="nofollow ugc">https://stevenlawrencekayser.substack.com/p/russia-saudi-arabia-the-entire-world</a></p>
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