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		By: Mark E. Jeftovic		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark E. Jeftovic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2024 22:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bombthrower.com/the-great-taking-the-latest-anti-mainstream-conspiracy/#comment-161348&quot;&gt;Tannenhouser&lt;/a&gt;.

I rarely disallow comments (unless they&#039;re just pointless profanity and ad hominem attacks) - sometimes its just takes me awhile to get to them. I don&#039;t have a team of interns sitting here waiting for you to enlighten us all.]]></description>
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<p>I rarely disallow comments (unless they&#8217;re just pointless profanity and ad hominem attacks) &#8211; sometimes its just takes me awhile to get to them. I don&#8217;t have a team of interns sitting here waiting for you to enlighten us all.</p>
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		By: Glen A. Pearce		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glen A. Pearce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2024 21:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bombthrower.com/the-great-taking-the-latest-anti-mainstream-conspiracy/#comment-161262&quot;&gt;Tannenhouser&lt;/a&gt;.

The &#034;People&#039;s Republic of China&#034; (abbreviating it to &#034;China&#034; doesn&#039;t address the history of the last century and the civil war that never really ended) didn&#039;t &#034;lift people out of poverty&#034;...the leaders just re-defined poverty so fewer people fell in the definition so they could pre-maturely declare victory and try to take credit for it.  If you watch &#034;The China Show&#034; on Youtube regularly you&#039;ld get to see how fake everything the PRC puts out really is.

https://www.youtube.com/@TheChinaShow/streams

Though a lot of premature declarations of victory have been made by the leaders of many places on a lot of things in the last few years trying to make themselves look good without actually fixing anything but that&#039;s a deeper more involved discussion.  More leaders all over the place need to get called out when they fake it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bombthrower.com/the-great-taking-the-latest-anti-mainstream-conspiracy/#comment-161262">Tannenhouser</a>.</p>
<p>The &quot;People&#039;s Republic of China&quot; (abbreviating it to &quot;China&quot; doesn&#039;t address the history of the last century and the civil war that never really ended) didn&#039;t &quot;lift people out of poverty&quot;&#8230;the leaders just re-defined poverty so fewer people fell in the definition so they could pre-maturely declare victory and try to take credit for it.  If you watch &quot;The China Show&quot; on Youtube regularly you&#039;ld get to see how fake everything the PRC puts out really is.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@TheChinaShow/streams" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/@TheChinaShow/streams</a></p>
<p>Though a lot of premature declarations of victory have been made by the leaders of many places on a lot of things in the last few years trying to make themselves look good without actually fixing anything but that&#039;s a deeper more involved discussion.  More leaders all over the place need to get called out when they fake it.</p>
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		By: Tannenhouser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tannenhouser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2024 15:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bombthrower.com/the-great-taking-the-latest-anti-mainstream-conspiracy/#comment-161264&quot;&gt;Mark E. Jeftovic&lt;/a&gt;.

Good thing all the big brains decided Despotism means reducing poverty, education and health care eh. Total CLOWN WORLD take Mark. Your header says blowing up the clown world? You cant blow it up by enabling it. Not allowing reasonable comments is what despots do.  Shame.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bombthrower.com/the-great-taking-the-latest-anti-mainstream-conspiracy/#comment-161264">Mark E. Jeftovic</a>.</p>
<p>Good thing all the big brains decided Despotism means reducing poverty, education and health care eh. Total CLOWN WORLD take Mark. Your header says blowing up the clown world? You cant blow it up by enabling it. Not allowing reasonable comments is what despots do.  Shame.</p>
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		By: Tannenhouser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tannenhouser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2024 22:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bombthrower.com/the-great-taking-the-latest-anti-mainstream-conspiracy/#comment-161264&quot;&gt;Mark E. Jeftovic&lt;/a&gt;.

To coin a phrase. Dude !! Despotic dictatorships don&#039;t raise their people out of poverty, give them  great healthcare and educations.

Like I said BIOS update badly needed.  

Take the US it worships its military (a socialist endeavor) and spends stupid cash on it, all the while railing on about evil socialism yet they support socialism  through blind support of their military. Can u see the disconnect? A BIOS update would help with that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bombthrower.com/the-great-taking-the-latest-anti-mainstream-conspiracy/#comment-161264">Mark E. Jeftovic</a>.</p>
<p>To coin a phrase. Dude !! Despotic dictatorships don&#039;t raise their people out of poverty, give them  great healthcare and educations.</p>
<p>Like I said BIOS update badly needed.  </p>
<p>Take the US it worships its military (a socialist endeavor) and spends stupid cash on it, all the while railing on about evil socialism yet they support socialism  through blind support of their military. Can u see the disconnect? A BIOS update would help with that.</p>
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		By: Tannenhouser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tannenhouser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2024 22:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bombthrower.com/the-great-taking-the-latest-anti-mainstream-conspiracy/#comment-161264&quot;&gt;Mark E. Jeftovic&lt;/a&gt;.

Like I said BIOS update badly needed.  Take the US. Its infamous for and its people  worship their military. Any countries military is a socialist endeavor as its paid for  and supported by the population.  They rail on (like u do) about the evils of socialism yet worship it through their blind support of it. Where&#039;s the disconnect? guaranteed a BIOS update will help:)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bombthrower.com/the-great-taking-the-latest-anti-mainstream-conspiracy/#comment-161264">Mark E. Jeftovic</a>.</p>
<p>Like I said BIOS update badly needed.  Take the US. Its infamous for and its people  worship their military. Any countries military is a socialist endeavor as its paid for  and supported by the population.  They rail on (like u do) about the evils of socialism yet worship it through their blind support of it. Where&#039;s the disconnect? guaranteed a BIOS update will help:)</p>
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		By: Mark E. Jeftovic		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark E. Jeftovic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2024 21:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bombthrower.com/the-great-taking-the-latest-anti-mainstream-conspiracy/#comment-161262&quot;&gt;Tannenhouser&lt;/a&gt;.

Ah yes China and Cuba, home of the free, both of them.

You do realize you are extolling the virtues of two of the most despotic dictatorships on earth, right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bombthrower.com/the-great-taking-the-latest-anti-mainstream-conspiracy/#comment-161262">Tannenhouser</a>.</p>
<p>Ah yes China and Cuba, home of the free, both of them.</p>
<p>You do realize you are extolling the virtues of two of the most despotic dictatorships on earth, right?</p>
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		By: Tannenhouser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tannenhouser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2024 21:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bombthrower.com/the-great-taking-the-latest-anti-mainstream-conspiracy/#comment-161260&quot;&gt;Mark E. Jeftovic&lt;/a&gt;.

Naw. 

The communist/socialist revolutions were co opted by fascist regimes almost immediately.  Perhaps the NSDAP attempt at drawing votes from supporters of the en vogue ism of the day (socialism) by adding it to their name is where some become confused, and claim both are the same. 

They aren&#039;t.

The way each revolution concentrated power/wealth and removed all who might oppose them is proof of this imo.  

Think how the US claims freedom and democracy yet have very little freedom and ZERO democracy. 

Socialism wont seek to make people serfs it will seek to provide as many as possible with a higher standard of existence.

 IE China lifting almost a Billion of its people out of poverty.

https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/04/01/lifting-800-million-people-out-of-poverty-new-report-looks-at-lessons-from-china-s-experience

Or Cuba who while being subjugated to withering ILLEGAL economic sanctions has still managed to have 100% literacy Top Notch health care and Education while exporting DR&#039;S to the world in good and bad times.

Every bit of history viewed through a Western lens is biased and mostly propaganda. Its the main reason &#034;The West&#034; and its people believe the things they do. The western world needs a BIOS update. HUGE.  They have been subjected to the Big Lie continuously since 1913 when the bankers took over the US.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bombthrower.com/the-great-taking-the-latest-anti-mainstream-conspiracy/#comment-161260">Mark E. Jeftovic</a>.</p>
<p>Naw. </p>
<p>The communist/socialist revolutions were co opted by fascist regimes almost immediately.  Perhaps the NSDAP attempt at drawing votes from supporters of the en vogue ism of the day (socialism) by adding it to their name is where some become confused, and claim both are the same. </p>
<p>They aren&#039;t.</p>
<p>The way each revolution concentrated power/wealth and removed all who might oppose them is proof of this imo.  </p>
<p>Think how the US claims freedom and democracy yet have very little freedom and ZERO democracy. </p>
<p>Socialism wont seek to make people serfs it will seek to provide as many as possible with a higher standard of existence.</p>
<p> IE China lifting almost a Billion of its people out of poverty.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/04/01/lifting-800-million-people-out-of-poverty-new-report-looks-at-lessons-from-china-s-experience" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/04/01/lifting-800-million-people-out-of-poverty-new-report-looks-at-lessons-from-china-s-experience</a></p>
<p>Or Cuba who while being subjugated to withering ILLEGAL economic sanctions has still managed to have 100% literacy Top Notch health care and Education while exporting DR&#039;S to the world in good and bad times.</p>
<p>Every bit of history viewed through a Western lens is biased and mostly propaganda. Its the main reason &quot;The West&quot; and its people believe the things they do. The western world needs a BIOS update. HUGE.  They have been subjected to the Big Lie continuously since 1913 when the bankers took over the US.</p>
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		By: Mark E. Jeftovic		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark E. Jeftovic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2024 20:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://bombthrower.com/the-great-taking-the-latest-anti-mainstream-conspiracy/#comment-161250&quot;&gt;Tannenhouser&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;A socialist system would not do this, a fascist/cooperate/oligarchic one will and does.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Right, because Soviet Russia, Maoist China, Venezuela et al are exemplars of being anti-fascist. 

Dude, socialism and fascism &lt;em&gt;are the same thing.&lt;/em&gt;



&lt;blockquote&gt;A socialist system would strive to have all property benefit the largest group possible, fascist/oligarchic systems like what we have now do this, it&#039;s not socialist behavior.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Lol. And how does it do that? By expropriating everybody else&#039;s property and equally impoverishing society. Fascism was discredited - but the same totalitarian scam is still considered fashionable when it&#039;s called &quot;socialism&quot;, or nowadays &quot;stakeholder capitalism&quot;.

It&#039;s all &lt;a href=&quot;https://bombthrower.com/socialism-isnt-a-failure-its-a-fraud/&quot; rel=&quot;ugc&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;the same scam.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://bombthrower.com/the-great-taking-the-latest-anti-mainstream-conspiracy/#comment-161250">Tannenhouser</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>A socialist system would not do this, a fascist/cooperate/oligarchic one will and does.</p></blockquote>
<p>Right, because Soviet Russia, Maoist China, Venezuela et al are exemplars of being anti-fascist. </p>
<p>Dude, socialism and fascism <em>are the same thing.</em></p>
<blockquote><p>A socialist system would strive to have all property benefit the largest group possible, fascist/oligarchic systems like what we have now do this, it&#8217;s not socialist behavior.</p></blockquote>
<p>Lol. And how does it do that? By expropriating everybody else&#8217;s property and equally impoverishing society. Fascism was discredited &#8211; but the same totalitarian scam is still considered fashionable when it&#8217;s called &#8220;socialism&#8221;, or nowadays &#8220;stakeholder capitalism&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all <a href="https://bombthrower.com/socialism-isnt-a-failure-its-a-fraud/" rel="ugc"><strong>the same scam.</strong></a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2024 19:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[!00% agree with this Blog post except your attribution of socialism to fascism.

Its cringe;  how some attribute fascist tendencies in systems with socialist ones. For instance &#034;the imposition of a technocratic socialism that attempts to hoover up the property rights of the rest of humanity.&#034;

A socialist system would not do this, a fascist/cooperate/oligarchic one will and does. A socialist system would strive to have all property benefit the largest group possible, fascist/oligarchic systems like what we have now do this, it&#039;s not socialist behavior.

I know I know I wont change your views on Socialism. Its to bad though as most of the good stuff in our society comes from socialism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>!00% agree with this Blog post except your attribution of socialism to fascism.</p>
<p>Its cringe;  how some attribute fascist tendencies in systems with socialist ones. For instance &quot;the imposition of a technocratic socialism that attempts to hoover up the property rights of the rest of humanity.&quot;</p>
<p>A socialist system would not do this, a fascist/cooperate/oligarchic one will and does. A socialist system would strive to have all property benefit the largest group possible, fascist/oligarchic systems like what we have now do this, it&#039;s not socialist behavior.</p>
<p>I know I know I wont change your views on Socialism. Its to bad though as most of the good stuff in our society comes from socialism.</p>
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		By: Michael OHare		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2023 02:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jeff,

I started watching David Webb&#039;s documentary.  Two fallacies in the first few minutes.  Don&#039;t bother listening to this guy.  He has no credibility.  I&#039;m not saying there are not structure legal issues, but he takes forever to get there and discusses topics he obviously doesn&#039;t understand, so I can&#039;t take him seriously on those topics where he might be on to something.

In the first few minutes he discusses the velocity of money is a nonsensical relation, which Rothbard disassembles in &#034;Man, Economy &#038; State.&#034;  Webb is just wrong here.  Then the rust belt wasn’t created by bankers. The US manufactures more than it ever has, but with a fraction of the labor. We became an information economy. Just as in the Industrial Revolution we went from a 95%+ farming employed economy to predominantly manufacturing economy. Yet we produced more farm product than ever, and still do today. 
I wouldn’t waste my time with this guy.  He doesn&#039;t understand basic economics.
M]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>I started watching David Webb&#039;s documentary.  Two fallacies in the first few minutes.  Don&#039;t bother listening to this guy.  He has no credibility.  I&#039;m not saying there are not structure legal issues, but he takes forever to get there and discusses topics he obviously doesn&#039;t understand, so I can&#039;t take him seriously on those topics where he might be on to something.</p>
<p>In the first few minutes he discusses the velocity of money is a nonsensical relation, which Rothbard disassembles in &quot;Man, Economy &amp; State.&quot;  Webb is just wrong here.  Then the rust belt wasn’t created by bankers. The US manufactures more than it ever has, but with a fraction of the labor. We became an information economy. Just as in the Industrial Revolution we went from a 95%+ farming employed economy to predominantly manufacturing economy. Yet we produced more farm product than ever, and still do today.<br />
I wouldn’t waste my time with this guy.  He doesn&#039;t understand basic economics.<br />
M</p>
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